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paul ii. his papacy has been marked by controversy. the pope criticized for how he handled the situation in his prior jobs when he was archbishop in germany and later a top vatican official. on a visit to america in 2008, he became the first pope to meet with the victims themselves. on a lighter note, benedict has become known as his personal idiosyncracies like his bright red shoes. he's been using a moveable platform to carry him down the aisle of st. peters basilica. this morning after he made his announcement, he was helped down from his chair. while this is a surprise the pope has said in the past that he reserved the right to resign if he felt too old to perform his duties. what's next? he still hopes to serve the church through a life dedicated to prayer. elizabeth, back to you. >> greg, good morning to you. lot of people really surprised by the announcement this morning. some cardinals in the audience didn't understand what pope benedict was saying? >> that's also true. one of those oc
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is to me was pope john paul ii praying very simply and my husband who is jewish and i both just felt the moment of spirituality unlike something neither one of us has ever felt and completely unguarded and unexpected as we turned into the chapel there and then we had a mass where the pope was really too weak to really pray orally but he was there on his knees throughout with others saying the mass for him. so it was quite, quite a moment. >> and, of course, pope john paul, cardinal wuerl, teaching a very different lesson in his final days to the public. >> yes, and i think pope benedict summed it all up in his remarks that he made. there are many ways to carry a cross. everyone has a cross to bear in life. but there are many ways in which you carry it and blessed john paul did it visibly. >> and in those remarks to the general audience he also as he now comes out to address the public. [ cheers ] >> pope benedict giving a blessing. >> the last time the pope with his people. >> last time he'll ever do that. [ speaking a foreign language ] >> translator: i'm happy to be with you. surro
is to me was pope john paul ii praying very simply and my husband who is jewish and i both just felt the moment of spirituality unlike something neither one of us has ever felt and completely unguarded and unexpected as we turned into the chapel there and then we had a mass where the pope was really too weak to really pray orally but he was there on his knees throughout with others saying the mass for him. so it was quite, quite a moment. >> and, of course, pope john paul, cardinal wuerl,...
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pope john paul ii was 84 when he died. wlerned after he died he considered twice resigning because of his ill health. this sets up a political process with the conclave electing the next pope. dan harris joining us on this discussion. it was a quick process to anoint pope benedict. how does the process work? >> this is a fascinating, intricate, ancient process. a brief look at how it works. take a look. for the past 10 year, papal elections have been held in the vatican's sistine chapel. they're totally cut off from the outside world. all banned. once the election commence, they'll sleep and eat in the santa marta house in private rooms, each with a bathroom. about 70 people are awe loied in besides the cardinals. who can vote for the pope? usually those under the age of 80 at the time of the pope's death. so at this time benedict is still alive. will he be part of it or will his age keep him out? any catholic male, not married, is eligible. for more than 1,000 year, it's almost always been a cardinal. the ballots are secr
pope john paul ii was 84 when he died. wlerned after he died he considered twice resigning because of his ill health. this sets up a political process with the conclave electing the next pope. dan harris joining us on this discussion. it was a quick process to anoint pope benedict. how does the process work? >> this is a fascinating, intricate, ancient process. a brief look at how it works. take a look. for the past 10 year, papal elections have been held in the vatican's sistine chapel....
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they would ask about that, especially, like you mentioned in the days of blessed john paul ii. was it a probability, no. but now, the ice might be broken. and in the future, it might become not as startling. >> what happens when you have a former pope? >> i'm wondering myself. i'm wondering. we haven't been through this in 600 years. so, i think he's going -- let me get to my books, let me get back to my piano. he's going to be saying. let me concentrate on my writing. he's probably going to relish the transition. >> would you like to see an african? would you like to see a south american? >> yes. and i think those are very probable. to think that maybe, maybe the college of card nainals feel th holy spirit is directing them to choose from somewhere else, i think so. >> what are the odds of a north american? and you were asked, what about you? >> is this abc news or comedy central? you are -- >> what would you like to see this next pope be and do in order to be as inclusive as possible of the american church and the american views on these social issues? >> sure. >> there has t
they would ask about that, especially, like you mentioned in the days of blessed john paul ii. was it a probability, no. but now, the ice might be broken. and in the future, it might become not as startling. >> what happens when you have a former pope? >> i'm wondering myself. i'm wondering. we haven't been through this in 600 years. so, i think he's going -- let me get to my books, let me get back to my piano. he's going to be saying. let me concentrate on my writing. he's probably...
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he says ratsinger did not act until receiving order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not able to do much. john paul ii tended to be more skeptical about all accusations of sex abuse he says when benedict was elected in 2005, he was more willing to take action against these priests and make it more public. lennon arks bused when he was 13 says he popes a -- hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to demonstrate a moral authority as open qlos yosed to being in the done jen of it's vile corruption that, i believe sit now. >> and by the way this cost the catholic church more than $2 billion in settlements. >> thank you very much. book makers are already putting odds on the next pope with cardinals from gauna, nigeria and canada from early favorites. canadian cardinal has 7-2 odds. and nigerian cardinal has nine to two odds. yim hill has a similar split. >> one clergiman plans on voting for the next pope though he is banned from public duties. cardinal roger mahony used to have the archdiocese of los angeles
he says ratsinger did not act until receiving order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not able to do much. john paul ii tended to be more skeptical about all accusations of sex abuse he says when benedict was elected in 2005, he was more willing to take action against these priests and make it more public. lennon arks bused when he was 13 says he popes a -- hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to...
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he says the pope didn't act until he received an explicit order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not really able to do much when he was still. john paul the second tended to be more skeptical about all the the accusations of sexual abuse. >>reporter: he says when benedict was elected in 2005 he was more willing to take action against these priests. and make it more public. lennon abused when he was 13 says he hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to demonstrate a morale authority as opposed to being in the dungeon of the vial corruption that it is now. >> this scan today has cost the catholic church more than 2 billion dollars in settlement. in san francisco, abc 7 news. >> one clergy man from california plans to vote for the next pope even though he has been banned from public duties because of the way he handles sexual abuse cases. cardinal roger mahoney used to head the archdiocese of los angeles. he was ban he should from most duties after it was revealed he mishandled cases involving suspected pri
he says the pope didn't act until he received an explicit order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not really able to do much when he was still. john paul the second tended to be more skeptical about all the the accusations of sexual abuse. >>reporter: he says when benedict was elected in 2005 he was more willing to take action against these priests. and make it more public. lennon abused when he was 13 says he hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church....
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although, many of us remember the pictures of john paul -- pope john paul ii who was extremely old and ill when he died. the supposition here is that pope benedict doesn't want to see himself in the same position we saw pope john paul ii. there may be some reasons regarding pope benedict's health that we are aware of at this time. but certainly we have seen it pulled benedick grow increasingly tired -- pope benedick xvi grow increasingly tired. we have seen him use a way of moving up the basilica of a moving platform because he was too tired during those ceremonies to actually walk down the i yelled up to the altar. -- down the aise up to the altar. these all decisions that were taken not to tire the pope particularly over christmas. which is one of the busiest times in the pope's schedule. easter is coming up and that is also a very busy time for pope benedict. he has obviously decided this is too much of a heavy schedule for him. and he will in fact resign, as a said, on february 28. it remains to be seen what may happen after that and who will be pulled for the very important easter
although, many of us remember the pictures of john paul -- pope john paul ii who was extremely old and ill when he died. the supposition here is that pope benedict doesn't want to see himself in the same position we saw pope john paul ii. there may be some reasons regarding pope benedict's health that we are aware of at this time. but certainly we have seen it pulled benedick grow increasingly tired -- pope benedick xvi grow increasingly tired. we have seen him use a way of moving up the...
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he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say. >> thank you, eric. >> libyans, thousands of therm marking the uprising that toppled gad gad. many are sporting flaggings on their cars and balloons and featuring the national colors. the new leader calling for unity in the nation. but the new libyan central government has little authority beyond the capitol of tripoli. the country is fractured. there are militia. >> explosion in baghdad this morning. 28 people were killed and dozens more wounded . here you can see burned out hulkings was -- buildings and cars. sunday is the beginni of the work day there. >> the national gun debate rages on and new quis of a potential fall out. they are halting production in response to sweeping gun laws. adam houseley is following this from los angeles. hi, adam. >> hi, jamie. you talked about new york and california, nationally as well. ove
he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say. >> thank you, eric. >> libyans, thousands of therm marking the uprising that toppled gad gad. many are sporting flaggings on their cars and balloons and featuring the national colors. the new leader calling for unity in the...
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he was very close to john paul ii. even spoke when john paul ii it was ill, that it is possible a pope can resign if they feel they can no longer do their job adequately. this is a man who knew he said that realizes his own diminishment. he said, you know what? i have to step up to do what i say was possible for me. bill: could not be more of contrast between the two popes. i said this last hour, i thought pope john paul ii stayed in the job very end because he wanted people to see him in the human condition and earthen vessel and you have the job to take care of even people like me. >> that's true. bill: even though i'm the pope. >> some catholics looked at it, gee, we have a feeble man who is diminishing the head of our worldwide church is he really up to snuff to do it? i think there was some concern. yeah, it was a beautiful image spiritually of somebody in their decline saying, but look at me, as an example. but you want someone who can administrate a worldwide church. bill: understood. pope benedict made that qui
he was very close to john paul ii. even spoke when john paul ii it was ill, that it is possible a pope can resign if they feel they can no longer do their job adequately. this is a man who knew he said that realizes his own diminishment. he said, you know what? i have to step up to do what i say was possible for me. bill: could not be more of contrast between the two popes. i said this last hour, i thought pope john paul ii stayed in the job very end because he wanted people to see him in the...
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john paul the ii was the man of the camera, the man of the public. pope benedict and his own personality, while accepting the responsibility is more at ease in quiet and peace. he'll continue to write. he told the cardinals today this was fascinating, keep writing to me, i will have communication with you. but notice it's by mail. he's not going to be making public statements. a real life changer and for me personally it's a call never to want power for your own sake or authority but rather to serve. that's what we got into this for in the first place. bill: you mentioned the comparison to his predecessor and you always got the impression that pope john paul ii loved the job, and loved to let people know that he loved the job. you really go never really got that from pope benedict the xvi. we just want to drop in here and see if we can pick up anything inside the apostolic palace at the vat kin. vavat tavatican. >> sure. [applause] [applause] [applause] [applause] bill: even the headline itself is still stunning. we are watching a pope retire. martha
john paul the ii was the man of the camera, the man of the public. pope benedict and his own personality, while accepting the responsibility is more at ease in quiet and peace. he'll continue to write. he told the cardinals today this was fascinating, keep writing to me, i will have communication with you. but notice it's by mail. he's not going to be making public statements. a real life changer and for me personally it's a call never to want power for your own sake or authority but rather to...
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paul ii. it's not usual. he doesn't usually hold his weekly audiences like that, but this is the day before he resigns and, therefore, a little extra is going into this general audience. i'm here now with my colleagues at 4:45 a.m., that would be 10:45 a.m. here the pope starts to read and there will be other biblical readings. he will also have his greeting. and we'll wait to see whether in fact he puts a special farewell message into what is often planned readings for these particular days. we're still in lent. and as i'm here with john allen and jim bittermann, this is a special time not just because of the resignation of this pope, the first time in more than 600 years since 1450, but it is lent, that carries a whole different sort of significance of sacrifice and preparation for the catholic church's most significant holiday. >> that's right. lent is a period of penance and spiritual preparation for holy week. and ultimately his triumphant rising from the grave on easter sunday. and actua
paul ii. it's not usual. he doesn't usually hold his weekly audiences like that, but this is the day before he resigns and, therefore, a little extra is going into this general audience. i'm here now with my colleagues at 4:45 a.m., that would be 10:45 a.m. here the pope starts to read and there will be other biblical readings. he will also have his greeting. and we'll wait to see whether in fact he puts a special farewell message into what is often planned readings for these particular days....
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paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy in cardinal mahoney's role in electing of the new pope. he has been stripped after thousands of pages revealed his role in shielding priests from justice. the nauseating story from 360's gary tuckman. >> reporter: the first time is when he helped bring them to the ashch diocese of los angeles. the ashch bishop of mexico city wanted him gone because of his quote homosexual problem. those are the allegations of lawyers who questioned him in a deposition. allegations that he has denied. lay lawyers say even with that knowledge
paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy...
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john paul ii took wonderful walks here. benedict xvi i'm told is a much, much more private man, expected to spend a long time in his rooms here. he'll be here for about two months while they restore his home at the vatican where he will eventually spend the rest of his life. guys? >> all right, becky anderson, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> here to help us walk through today is monsignor rick hi hillgartner. i wanted to walk through what is going to happen today when the pope meets with the cardinals. can you walk us through that? >> sure. >> yesterday in st. peter's square there were upwards of 50,000 people or more giving that public witness. this will be the most with his closest collaborators over the years. the pope's personal collaborators are the bishops throughout the world and in a particular way it's the cardinals standing at the heart of those, many of the cardinals of the people who workday to day in the vatican who work with the pope on a regular basis. who see him week in, week out. the
john paul ii took wonderful walks here. benedict xvi i'm told is a much, much more private man, expected to spend a long time in his rooms here. he'll be here for about two months while they restore his home at the vatican where he will eventually spend the rest of his life. guys? >> all right, becky anderson, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> here to help us walk through today is monsignor rick hi hillgartner. i wanted to walk through what is going to happen...
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that was the theme of john paul ii. it's the theme of benedict xvi, and it's going to be a very interesting ride into the rest of the 21st century. >> thank you for your wisdom, and john garvey, thank you for joining us today. we really appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> and looking ahead to the next 24 hours, the president planning to pivot back to the economy in tomorrow night's state of the yoon. we'll get a preview from the man who knows exactly what's going on behind the scenes at the white house. right away former white house communications director, speechwriter, don bair joining us next. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. your money needs an ally. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insuranc
that was the theme of john paul ii. it's the theme of benedict xvi, and it's going to be a very interesting ride into the rest of the 21st century. >> thank you for your wisdom, and john garvey, thank you for joining us today. we really appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> and looking ahead to the next 24 hours, the president planning to pivot back to the economy in tomorrow night's state of the yoon. we'll get a preview from the man who knows exactly what's going on...
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following john paul ii. that was a hard act to follow. they were looking for an elderly pontiff who would not be in position for that long and also there was no way anybody was going to top john paul ii in terms of charisma, in reaching out to the young, and, unfortunately, they didn't get a salgzman for catholicism in this particular pope, which will be a very important ingredient for the next one. >> he also had the burdens of dealing with the scandals after 27 years of john paul ii. he had to focus on the apology, the fact that he had actually met individually in his role as cardinal ratzinger investigating some of the problems of the abuse in the american church. >> he did go some way in terms of, you know, issuing an apology from the pope as a pretty lofty ideal, but, many of the, we still have a problem, many of the, worldwide with the sex scandal and the catholic church. they haven't addressed it at all levels. the vatican can pools. they can set lawsuits. there are a lot of damaged people out there who were basically abused as chi
following john paul ii. that was a hard act to follow. they were looking for an elderly pontiff who would not be in position for that long and also there was no way anybody was going to top john paul ii in terms of charisma, in reaching out to the young, and, unfortunately, they didn't get a salgzman for catholicism in this particular pope, which will be a very important ingredient for the next one. >> he also had the burdens of dealing with the scandals after 27 years of john paul ii. he...
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he became pope after john paul ii died, but he never seemed to enjoy it the way john paul ii did, who was an actor. benedict is a scholar, a theologian, an intellectual, and today you could see the humility that those who know him very well say have always marked this 85-year-old man. >> certainly describing himself as a pilgrim is really extraordinary, and you get the feeling that the crowd, the audiences were responding to him in an emotional way that they hadn't previously. that i guess it's the moment the history, but also the sadness. i mean, this is a very bittersweet moment. >> well, it's -- it is. that's exactly the way to describe it. you know, it's interesting in st. peters square, they had the big jumbotrons out there, and people were gathered around and were actually silent in st. peters square watching what happened, and the last time i heard that kind of silence in st. peters square it was when they announced the death of john paul ii. you never heard a cell phone go off. you never heard anybody have a cell phone conversation, and on the in st. peters square where the he
he became pope after john paul ii died, but he never seemed to enjoy it the way john paul ii did, who was an actor. benedict is a scholar, a theologian, an intellectual, and today you could see the humility that those who know him very well say have always marked this 85-year-old man. >> certainly describing himself as a pilgrim is really extraordinary, and you get the feeling that the crowd, the audiences were responding to him in an emotional way that they hadn't previously. that i...
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paul ii or pope benedict xvi. the things like ordination of women in the priesthood, i do not believe it's realistic to think that whoever emerges from the sistine chapel is the next pope of the catholic church is going to overturn church teachings on those points. i do think what is perhaps not only realistic, but quite probable, is that one thing that is very much going to be on the minds of the cardinals who are electing the next pope, whatever else they do, it is critical to make sure whoever they pick has a profile of having clean hands on the crisis, that is, he has to come across as part of the solution to this crisis rather than part of the problem. >> john, thanks so much for your analysis as always. and also, michael, thanks for joining us. >> coming up, the oscar pistorius case apracticing worldwide attention. everybody has an opinion on what they believe happened. >> wait until you see this story. a mother and father in south africa they know they say firsthand what the athlete is going through. humans
paul ii or pope benedict xvi. the things like ordination of women in the priesthood, i do not believe it's realistic to think that whoever emerges from the sistine chapel is the next pope of the catholic church is going to overturn church teachings on those points. i do think what is perhaps not only realistic, but quite probable, is that one thing that is very much going to be on the minds of the cardinals who are electing the next pope, whatever else they do, it is critical to make sure...
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but with john paul ii, there years people thought any minute we have to plan for the future. they are talking about a short amount of time. maybe it will be just weeks before they have a new gathering of all of the cardinals in order to vote in a new pope. but all the maneuvering that had been going on before, all that kind of thing, there does not seem to be a front runner of the moment. it really is wide open. >> thank you very much for coming in. thank you. stay with us on bbc world news. more on our breaking news. pope benedict xvi is to resign at the end of the month. the official in charge of india 's massive religious festival has announced he will resign the day after a stampede killed at least 36 people. he said he took a moral responsibility for the deaths of which happened when a foot bridge collapsed at a railway station. most of the victims are said to be women. some 30 million programs have been bathing in the river. our correspondent is there. >> the streets are overflowing -- overflowing with people. hindu children trying to return home. you can see how it eve
but with john paul ii, there years people thought any minute we have to plan for the future. they are talking about a short amount of time. maybe it will be just weeks before they have a new gathering of all of the cardinals in order to vote in a new pope. but all the maneuvering that had been going on before, all that kind of thing, there does not seem to be a front runner of the moment. it really is wide open. >> thank you very much for coming in. thank you. stay with us on bbc world...
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it was as a traditionalist that he became the doctrinal watchdog for john paul ii. the people who met the pope said that he was shy and charming. his most important writings dealt with things such as the importance of love. >> he is the most intelligent, intelligent,pope we have had in years. his sermons and harmonies are beautiful. >> he warned that excluding christianity from national debate could be harmful for democracy. by the time pope benedict came to westminster cathedral, he renewed respect for his argument that religion should stay at the heart of public life. over the last few years, catholicism has grown in the developing world. in its birthplace of europe, he has found the tides of secularism, all but impossible to stem. the pope defended moslems by quoting historical criticisms of it is lomb. -- islam. he has faced criticism over the handling of the sexual abuse crisis. he has been accused of doing too little to prevent abuse by priests. >> there is a suspicion that they were being shielded by j.p. ii rather than by him. >> he hoped he could build up a
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it was very clear that john paul ii enjoyed every minute of the papacy. i think that benedict has seen it as a significant burden to carry, and he's carried it with dignity, but i think he had a different disposition towards the office. >> and what is the state of the catholic church these days? >> well, it depends upon where you look. in some places it's very healthy and growing, as i suggested. in other places it's declining in numbers, and it's suffering financially. so it's a very mixed script that the new pope will face. and there are divisions within the church between liberals and conservatives, as there always are. sometimes they've been exacerbated in recent years. >> dean chester gillis of georgetown university. good to see you. thank you so much. >>> now to the severe weather in the south and northeast. on sunday a tornado ripped through hundreds of homes and buildings around hattiesburg, mississippi. more than a dozen people were hurt, but so far no deaths have been reported. mississippi's governor has declared a state of emergency, and he pla
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you know john paul ii's greatest gift was his serenity in suffering. that was the greatest pulpit he ever prepared from. i believe humility is the greatest pulpit that benedict xvi has prepared from. he said to me once benedict things done with humility have the lasting effect have the greatest lasting effect. i believe he knows that in his heart. a courageous, novel decision but he's taken it also strategically in order that we are given a good pope to lead us now into the future. it's a sad moment for us but we now look forward to a new holy father. >> monseigneur anthony figuerdo director of the north american pontifical college. thank you very much, monseigneur. it is coming up on 6:00 p.m. in rome. we saw a beautiful shot of the sun setting in castel gandolfo. we see the long shadows of the early evening coming across st. peter's square. nor norah, i wonder as you watched this for the first time in 600 years, it was an amazing moment in history, what did you think as you thought of this pope leaving the papacy. >> incredibly historic. it was a sho
you know john paul ii's greatest gift was his serenity in suffering. that was the greatest pulpit he ever prepared from. i believe humility is the greatest pulpit that benedict xvi has prepared from. he said to me once benedict things done with humility have the lasting effect have the greatest lasting effect. i believe he knows that in his heart. a courageous, novel decision but he's taken it also strategically in order that we are given a good pope to lead us now into the future. it's a sad...
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it was very clear that john paul ii enjoyed every minute of paypal paypalcy. i think benedict has seen it as a significant burden to carry and he's kaifred it with decency but he's had a different feeling toward the office. >> what is the state of the catholic church these days? >> it depends where you look nchl some places it's very healthy and growing. in other places it's declining in numbers and suffering financially. so it's a very mixed script that the new pope will face and there are divisions within the church between liberals and conservatives as there always are. sometimes they've been exacerbated in recent years. >> we now want to return to allen pizzey who is live in rome. i guess this sets up a conclave in mid-march to choose a new pope right. >> reporter: yes, he does. he said he's resigning on february 28th. there are 100 cardinals under the age of 80 who are technically eligible to vote in the conclave. there may be a couple more than that. they're in kind of a transition period. what happens is the cardinals gather from around the world in rom
it was very clear that john paul ii enjoyed every minute of paypal paypalcy. i think benedict has seen it as a significant burden to carry and he's kaifred it with decency but he's had a different feeling toward the office. >> what is the state of the catholic church these days? >> it depends where you look nchl some places it's very healthy and growing. in other places it's declining in numbers and suffering financially. so it's a very mixed script that the new pope will face and...
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pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all being sinners or is this just typical? >> what did he say about the problem of priestly sexual abuse before he became pope? he said we got to get rid of the filth. that was the word he used. these priests who would dare molest anybody. so he was an outspoken man. he knows we're all sinners. the pope himself goes to confession. he understands that. but he also understands most priests are good men and to have their name and their hair damage be smernlged -- >> i can't imagine the person who listens to the pope's confession. what a remarkable thing. bill, thank you for taking the time
pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all...
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pope john paul ii said i need you with me. of course he did. he listened to john paul. so he's been well aware of his own fragility of his health for a while. >> reporter: and you know, the timing is also rather surprising. it is two days before ash wednesday, and the start of lent, a very holy day for catholics. the cardinal said in facts he's sure people around him knew that this was going to happen. and put a transition team in place. the cardinal says a conclave will take a month. but right now all of that timing is being worked out. suzanne. >> all right. deb, thank you. i appreciate it. >>> the former navy s.e.a.l. who reportedly fired the shot that killed osama bin laden is said to be furious with the u.s. military. he has no pension or medical insurance, and according to an investigative piece in esquire magazine called the man who shot and killed osama bin laden, the shooter who is not named, he told a friend, this is a quote here, he says if i get killed on this next deployment. i know my family will be taken care of. but if i come back and retire, i won't hav
pope john paul ii said i need you with me. of course he did. he listened to john paul. so he's been well aware of his own fragility of his health for a while. >> reporter: and you know, the timing is also rather surprising. it is two days before ash wednesday, and the start of lent, a very holy day for catholics. the cardinal said in facts he's sure people around him knew that this was going to happen. and put a transition team in place. the cardinal says a conclave will take a month. but...
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ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that we are living through a day of enormous shock here in rome. not so much the pope benedict xvi chose to resign. he signaled two years ago that he would be open to doing that, but the fact that we had absolutely no indication this was coming today. precisely because of that, therefore, there are some enormous unanswered questions about how all of this is going to play out. i suppose the biggest questions would be, "a," what will the role of a retired pope be? will he continue to play any kind of public role? will he continue to exercise any influence on the future direction
ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that...
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there hasn't been an italian pope since before john paul ii, who is polish and then we had our german pope with pope benedict. could it be an african pope, latin pope, a younger pope, and also a pope that could lead the church out of these sex abuse scandals. >> what's the possibility of it being a pope with a bit more diversity? >> it's quite likely. it could happen. but it's always been difficult to predict who the next pope will be. and often times the predictions run afoul. they turn out not to be correct. >> okay. so how does the catholic church -- how does the vatican then shake this bad press? and to move forward, to look for the next pope? >> well, i think that the cardinals who are tasked with the selection of the next pope have a big task. and they will be sequestered in the sistine chapel, and they will, according to the rules, pray and try to select the next pope through prayer, politicking is looked down upon. but before they go into the chapel, they hear two sermons about the future of the church and what the next pope should be attending to. so i'm sure these things wil
there hasn't been an italian pope since before john paul ii, who is polish and then we had our german pope with pope benedict. could it be an african pope, latin pope, a younger pope, and also a pope that could lead the church out of these sex abuse scandals. >> what's the possibility of it being a pope with a bit more diversity? >> it's quite likely. it could happen. but it's always been difficult to predict who the next pope will be. and often times the predictions run afoul. they...
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benedict xvi was different from john paul ii in many ways. so if we mean things bigger than issues, if we mean tonality and approach and personality, those kinds of things, i think it's reasonable to think there might be changes on those scores. >> john allen and sister donna, thank you for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. while cardinal roger mahoney is in rome to pick the next pope back in the united states he's accused of protecting pedophile priests. anderson cooper investigates tonight on cnn. >>> back in the united states tensions are rising at the nation's airports, with the government's forced spending cuts due to kick in two days from now airports big and small are bracing for delays and more headaches for air travelers. cnn's tori dunnin explains. >> reporter: sun air flight 2455 d carrying three passengers is headed for nearby dulles airport. >> see you later. >> reporter: a half-hour trip. it's one of up to six commercial flights a day. >> roger runway 2-7, taxi way delta. >> reporter: today there's a controller in th
benedict xvi was different from john paul ii in many ways. so if we mean things bigger than issues, if we mean tonality and approach and personality, those kinds of things, i think it's reasonable to think there might be changes on those scores. >> john allen and sister donna, thank you for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. while cardinal roger mahoney is in rome to pick the next pope back in the united states he's accused of protecting pedophile priests. anderson cooper...
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last time was very different because the papacy of john paul ii was so long. this time it's going to be a little different. the history of how this conclave will play out will be all new. >> john allen, can you hear me from rome? >> reporter: yes, i can. >> all right, john, great. great to have you. by the way, in case you didn't hear it for yourself, cardinal dolan gave you a shoutout in his interview, saying that you were closest to what the reckonings -- >> i agree with your assessment, it was a fantastic interview. >> he was spot-on about that, we know that much. john, let me ask you. the obvious intrigue is of course this is different what's happening with pope benedict, not since 600 years, but how do you think that may translate and how this process will be different. how will the difference carry through to the general congregations, the conclave, the choice. is this going to be new in many different ways? >> reporter: yeah, i've actually done a column for the paper laying out ten different ways that this thing is in contrast to the last conclave in 20
last time was very different because the papacy of john paul ii was so long. this time it's going to be a little different. the history of how this conclave will play out will be all new. >> john allen, can you hear me from rome? >> reporter: yes, i can. >> all right, john, great. great to have you. by the way, in case you didn't hear it for yourself, cardinal dolan gave you a shoutout in his interview, saying that you were closest to what the reckonings -- >> i agree...
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paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of his life. benedict xvi, while i think certainly ahe certainly admiring john paul, thinks that's not the path that every pope takes. some of the difficulties the vatican faced in recent years. internal disarray relating to the leaked crisis. the damage imposed upon the public image of the church by the sex abuse scandals and so on, it's clear that that has taken a toll on benedict xvi, he has struggled with that personally and it may well be that the people who have seen the cumulative effect of that, that the church needs a new lease on life and a fresh
paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of...
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not a reclus, but not john paul ii rock star? can he retreat in the vatican or have that extra mile of transparency and accountability as well to convince catholics that this is going to be a clean house? >> i think john paul revolutionized the papacy for all times. they knew their local bishop and knew there was a pope in rome, but they didn't expect to get messages on twitter or seeing him on tv, waiting for the next time the pope will come to town. benedict xvi said himself this morning, he understand that when you become pope, you lose your privacy. you become the property of the world. in terms of the transparency and accountability thing, i think everyone will recognize the catholic church is in a way a pretty modern institution struggling to come to terms with the post modern world and getting up to snuff so to speak in terms of transparency and accountability as part of the task. >> indeed it is, john. thank you for that. and we'll be checking in regularly throughout the day. although normal public visions of the pope rig
not a reclus, but not john paul ii rock star? can he retreat in the vatican or have that extra mile of transparency and accountability as well to convince catholics that this is going to be a clean house? >> i think john paul revolutionized the papacy for all times. they knew their local bishop and knew there was a pope in rome, but they didn't expect to get messages on twitter or seeing him on tv, waiting for the next time the pope will come to town. benedict xvi said himself this...
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paul. >> somewhere in a dictionary under the word evangelist is a picture of pope john paul ii. the basic diagnosis among many cardinals about benedict's papacy is he was a magnificent teaching pope but a mixed bag as a business manager. you asked where the fault lines are. first of all, you're never going to find any one guy who perfectly incarnates all these three things so which is the most important. what do we absolutely have to have and what can we settle for less than the idea. >> in terms of management and governability of the vatican and all the church's affairs, there's been financial scandals and the sex abuse scandal we have talked about for so long. a senior brazilian cardinal acknowledged of course this is going to be on the minds of the cardinals as they elect the next pope. that this business must be finished. would you say that's accurate? >> oh, absolutely. i, of course, have been talking to cardinals since this news broke. certainly i think, again, there are different ideas and different visions. but one thing that they would be almost unanimously saying is th
paul. >> somewhere in a dictionary under the word evangelist is a picture of pope john paul ii. the basic diagnosis among many cardinals about benedict's papacy is he was a magnificent teaching pope but a mixed bag as a business manager. you asked where the fault lines are. first of all, you're never going to find any one guy who perfectly incarnates all these three things so which is the most important. what do we absolutely have to have and what can we settle for less than the idea....
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one, john paul ii was made pope at a very young age relatively speaking. and pope benedict, 85, already past the normal retirement age of a priest being elected at 78 years old. we're going to have lots of time to talk about who will be the next pope and what he's going to look like, where he's going to be coming from, what his age will be. but this is a time that is certainly an unforgettable moment in the history of the church. >>brian: it's hard to imagine a cardinal with more charisma and presence than the one we have here, cardinal dolan. do you think he's a legitimate contender? >> you know, he would respond, would my mother think so? he is such a likable, loving, good, holy man. i don't really know. but he'll be there putting his vote in to the next pope. >>steve: we just got a statement. this is what the pope said earlier today in latin. it's been translated. after having repeatedly examined my conscience before god, i have come to the certainty that my strengths due to an advantage are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the petrine minist
one, john paul ii was made pope at a very young age relatively speaking. and pope benedict, 85, already past the normal retirement age of a priest being elected at 78 years old. we're going to have lots of time to talk about who will be the next pope and what he's going to look like, where he's going to be coming from, what his age will be. but this is a time that is certainly an unforgettable moment in the history of the church. >>brian: it's hard to imagine a cardinal with more charisma...
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john paul ii was the pope of de television and the traveling pope. pope benedict xvi has been called the pope of the internet. the pope of the rich in word. his teachings are so simple yet profound. i would encourage people just to read what he has written himself. he has a marvelous series on jesus of nazareth three books in a 3 part series. just very simple and yet very profound. what do congress look for? i asked that of cardinal dolan yesterday. his response was weatherman knee things are kneaded, many, many things, one of the first priorities of the cardinal he believes will be to find somebody who can give the new impetus to the church and strength and vigor and preaching president gospel of jesus with happiness and with conviction. and conviction not only of his own but being able to give conventioning reasons -- convincing reasons to the world no doubt the papacy is a different office or role than it was in the past because of communication. to have a pope who can communicate with that conviction to a world i believe is starving for real reas
john paul ii was the pope of de television and the traveling pope. pope benedict xvi has been called the pope of the internet. the pope of the rich in word. his teachings are so simple yet profound. i would encourage people just to read what he has written himself. he has a marvelous series on jesus of nazareth three books in a 3 part series. just very simple and yet very profound. what do congress look for? i asked that of cardinal dolan yesterday. his response was weatherman knee things are...
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because most of them have been chosen either by benedict, chosen some of them or john paul ii so you've got a powerhouse within that and figure out where it is. >> feels like we just went through this a couple years ago and-- >> maybe eight years ago. >> clayton: thank you for breaking it down for us. >> clayton: coming up on the show, remember this speech? >> i urge you to beware the temptation of pride, the temptation of declaring yourselves above it, and to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses are an evil empire. >> clayton: a look back at some of the greatest moments of presidential history in time for president's day. run a red light legally coming soon to a street near you perhaps. we'll explain what that means coming up. es she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice, with three of your daily vegetable servings in every little bottle. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get hear
because most of them have been chosen either by benedict, chosen some of them or john paul ii so you've got a powerhouse within that and figure out where it is. >> feels like we just went through this a couple years ago and-- >> maybe eight years ago. >> clayton: thank you for breaking it down for us. >> clayton: coming up on the show, remember this speech? >> i urge you to beware the temptation of pride, the temptation of declaring yourselves above it, and to...